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Why being a devil customer is better than boycotting…

January 13th, 2010

I have seen a lot in the blogosphere of late about the “Move Your Money” campaign, which aims to motivate people to boycott the big banks that were the primary recipients of government bailout money and move their business to smaller community banks and credit unions. This has led to a lot of discussion of boycotts in general, including this great post over at Bargaineering.

But if you disagree with a company’s business practices, is a boycott the most effective means of jabbing a stick in their eye? I would submit to you that it isn’t. You may do the most damage to the offending company by being what Best Buy termed several years ago as a “devil customer”. Best Buy determined that some of their customers who bought high-priced items or overpriced accessories without a sale were “angel customers”, but there was a certain percentage that were unprofitable customers that were considered “devil customers”. Included in the behaviors of the devil customer were taking advantage of price-match policies and only buying loss leader items (items sold below cost to get you into the store with the hope you’ll buy other items at regular price). Best Buy CEO Brad Anderson was quoted as saying, “They can wreak enormous economic havoc.”

So how can this be applied to protest companies you don’t like? Simply be a devil! For retail stores don’t boycott the store, but go there and only buy obvious loss leaders. If it is a store like Walmart with a price-match policy, go and price-match other stores’ loss leaders. Buy nothing that will actually make money for the store - save those items for their competitors and let those stores reap the profit.

Taking this concept back to banks, do everything you can to make sure the bank doesn’t make money on you. Move your money elsewhere unless they are paying an extremely high promotional rate that they are likely losing money on. Take advantage of promotional offers to open checking accounts and credit cards for bonus money or other perks, then only use the account enough to qualify for the bonus and avoid services fees and as soon as you are allowed cancel the account. If you do the dollar coin hustle, use an account over there to dump off your coins and make them eat the expense of handling them. Basically do anything that will cost them money but where you won’t incur any fees.

Think of it this way: if you boycott a company, they just don’t make any money off of you. But if you are a devil customer to a company, not only do they not make money off of you but they actually lose money by your having a relationship with them.

Warning: Those unused credit cards could cost you!

December 30th, 2009

Many of us have them: unused credit cards that we opened for whatever reason that we don’t use anymore and just have stuffed in a sock drawer or a desk. We may keep them because we think it will hurt our credit scores to cancel them, or for emergencies, or just because we are too lazy to call and cancel them. Now it looks like the credit card companies’ never ending quest for profits could make keeping these cards rather expensive.

According to this article on Bloomberg, Fifth Third Bank has instituted a $19 charge for NOT using your card. Additionally, Citi is starting to charge some customers with low activity levels on their accounts higher interest rates. On top of that many issuers such as Bank of America are starting to experiment with charging annual fees on credit card accounts where there may not have been one before.

For those of us that have built up a pile of unused accounts over the years, this may be a good reminder to cancel many of those accounts we no longer use. It helps reduce the possibility of being blindsided by fees and reduces you risk of fraudulent activity as well. On top of that, it eliminates all those mailings from the credit card company and leaves you with fewer accounts to have to track.

Will there be a credit score hit? Perhaps, although it may be smaller than you would expect, especially if you have several other accounts that are open and active. Just remember that the length of your credit history and the percentage of your credit lines that are utilized are the main factors here, so it is better to keep older and larger accounts.  Two things to consider doing are to request changing your card to a different program instead of closing the account entirely and consolidating existing credit lines with the same issuer.

Since we have no plans to apply for credit in the near future, we made the decision that downsizing to only a handful of accounts is our best course of action. The extra peace and security that comes from having fewer accounts is worth the hit of a few credit score points in my opinion.

Clutter can cost you money

September 29th, 2009

Nearly all of us fight the battle against clutter, and allowing clutter to reign can cost you financial in a number of ways. The most common one that comes to mind is paying bills late and being slapped with fees because the bill got buried underneath some pile on your desk.

Here is an unusual real-life example of clutter costing money. My wife’s great aunts, both in their eighties, share a house that had become an enormous mountain of clutter. Well unfortunately one of the great aunts fell and broke her hip, and to allow her to be able to move around at home with medical equipment and such the house needed to be decluttered. The Louisiana family spent over a week helping to get the house in condition, sorting through mounds of old clothing, mail, and other items.

They found a lot of interesting things in this decluttering exercise, perhaps the most frustrating of which was a $60 paper gift certificate to Maison Blanche department stores. It was piled amongst some books and other gifts that they had received many Christmas seasons ago, still in the gold gift envelope. Never heard of Maison Blanche? There is a good reason for that: it was bought out in the early 1990s by Dillards and has operated under the Dillards name ever since.

I have sent an email to Dillards customer service to see if they can in some way honor the certificate or exchange it for a Dillards gift card:

To whom it may concern:

As long as Dillard’s Department Stores have been in business and knowing the many other department stores that have been acquired and added into the Dillard’s family of stores, I am hopeful you can appreciate this story and assist with our request.

As you are probably aware, Dillard’s has purchased a number of department stores with locations in south Louisiana over the years, including Maison Blanche stores in the early 1990s. Considering how long it has been since that acquisition, imagine our surprise when we recently came across a gift
certificate to Maison Blanche!

While helping to declutter our great aunt’s home after her recent hip surgery, we found an unused $60 gift certificate buried amongst books and other items she had received as Christmas gifts that year. Obviously there are no longer any Maison Blanche stores at which to redeem the certificate, and in the age of gift cards we would likely receive very odd looks trying to redeem a paper certificate in a Dillard’s store. However, as the certificate bears no expiration date we would like to be able to redeem the certificate or have a gift card issued in its place. Please advise as to how we can redeem this very old certificate.

Sincerely,

BillyOceansEleven

Unfortunately my email received only a standard “we will forward it to the proper executive for handling” response, and after two weeks we haven’t heard anything else so I am assuming the certificate is ultimately worthless (thanks for all the help there, Dillards!). So there is a real-life, albeit unusual, example of how clutter can cost you money.

Update: ATS rebate arrival result of settlement

August 10th, 2009

I wrote last week about finally receiving my rebate from ATS after 136 weeks, seemingly out of nowhere. As part of my follow-up on this rebate, I was contacted by an investigator with the Georgia Governor’s Office of Consumer Affairs who was contacting persons who had filed BBB complaints against the company as part of an investigation. Well, it turns out that investigation was the cause of the rebate being paid, as I received this note after updating their investigator last week:

Our investigation was completed and our office was able to come to an agreement with the business.  They agreed to provide the rebates for consumers.  I am glad you received yours.  Please let me know if you have any further questions or problems with the refund.

So it looks like they didn’t pay this out of the goodness of their hearts but because they were under the gun from a government investigation. Regardless, I’m glad to have my money.

ATS: Rebate processing time of about 136 weeks

August 6th, 2009

Talk about unexpected surprises in the mailbox! I posted last Februrary about my fight to collect $30 in rebates from American Telecom Services (ATS) for a cordless phone bought from Office Depot on Black Friday 2006. Here the timeline on this rebate:

  • 11/24/2006 – Purchased ATS cordless phone as part of Office Depot Black Friday sale
  • 12/9/2006 – Mailed required rebate forms, receipts, and proofs of purchase to rebate processor
  • 3/16/2007 – After receiving a postcard stating I had to activate a prepaid calling card in the box (I already had), I re-activated the card and resubmitted the rebate documentation for payment.
  • 9/21/2007 – I sent an email to customer service for ATS and the rebate processor with scans of my rebate documentation threatening a BBB and AG complaint and demanding payment of the rebate claim.
  • 9/25/2007 – I receive a response from Julie Diaz at ATS claiming that the company was no longer doing business with the rebate processor and was processing the claims from their corporate office. The copies of the documentation I provided was to be forwarded to the appropriate department for prompt payment.
  • 2/27/2008 – I file a BBB complaint against ATS for non-payment of the rebate.
  • 4/3/2008 – I receive an email from a civil investigator with the Georgia Governor’s Office of Consumer Affairs requesting information on my complaint for inclusion in their investigation. I promptly send the investigator copies of my documentation and other information provided.
  • 7/20/2009 – I finally receive my rebate from ATS! It came in a plain white envelope with my name and address handwritten with no return address and a postmark from Connecticut. The check was handwritten and had a form letter attached simply apologizing for the length of time it took them to process the claim.

So it took ATS approximately 136 weeks to process my rebate, which is just a shade over two and a half years! I’ve deposited the check, so let’s just hope it doesn’t bounce.

Snuggie: The Blanket that Steals?

July 14th, 2009

We all know and love the Snuggie, that cool blanket with the sleeves sewn in that is a mainstay of the cable TV commercial circuit. We have a Snuggie ourselves and they are as cool as the actors in the commercial make them seem, and yes you do look like a monk when you have it on like the commercial too. But all is not well in Snuggie land, at least according to the folks at MainStreet.com.

According to their story, consumers that bought the Snuggie through the TV offer have been receiving “rebate” checks in the mail for $8.95. However, we you read the fine print you see that by cashing or depositing the check you are enrolled in a program called Great Fun, and if you don’t cancel within 30 days you will be charged for a year’s membership at a rate of $149.99. Unfortunately many Snuggie owners didn’t see that fine print and end up getting charged the membership fee for a service they weren’t even aware they were enrolling in. The practice isn’t illegal (long distance companies did this for years where by cashing a check you were agreeing to switch service, and other programs have used similar tactics), but it certainly qualifies as sneaky and makes a lot of folks irate.

For my longtime readers, you probably recognized the name Great Fun. In fact, Great Fun is a program run by Trilegiant Corporation, who I have posted about in the post Rape and Pillage Trilegiant for Free Gift Cards back in 2007. Yes, you can get tons of free money and gift cards by signing up for their trial offers and cancelling in the trial period. Just work the system in moderation, as they seem to be catching on a lot more quickly to those of us who are gaming the system for free stuff. However, if you do it right you can end up with hundreds of dollars in free gift cards and rebate checks for only the effort of signing up and calling to cancel the service.

Follow-up: Office Depot rebate – Issue resolved!

July 9th, 2009

Since I’ve posted a couple of times recently about bad customer service experiences, I though I would post about a positive experience I had, or at least a negative experience that was handled appropriately. I’ve been neglectful in posting the follow-up, but once this was escalated the situation was resolved pretty promptly.

I posted last year about an issue I was having with a rebate from Office Depot. In May, I purchased an HP all-in-one laser printer which was advertised at $199.99 with two seperate rebate of $100 each, making the item free after rebate. Long story short, Office Depot’s rebate processor paid one rebate and gave me a long line of bull on the other, leading me to file a BBB complaint against Office Depot.

Well, after a week or so a representative from Office Depot customer service responded that the denial was due to a processing error and that they had instructed the rebate processor to send the check immediately. Additionally, they sent a $25 Office Depot gift card for the trouble.

Do I think the story of an unintentional processing error is completely legit? No, not really. Rebate processors are notoriously shady, although I don’t think it was a grand conspiracy by Office Depot to take my money either. In any case I ultimately got what I wanted. Case closed. Thanks to Office Depot for stepping up and taking care of a customer!

Sometimes complaining does no good (customer service follow-up)

July 7th, 2009

I posted a rant last week about poor customer service I have encountered while grocery shopping recently, including one particularly irksome experience at Kroger. To make the long story short, I had a coupon that should have doubled and didn’t and no one, including the manager on duty, would make the adjustment to my receipt to correct the error in accordance with their policy. The manager on duty was particularly rude, prompting me to write a nasty-gram about the incident to Kroger’s corporate office in Ohio and threatening to take my business elsewhere unless I received a sincere apology for the incident from the store manager and the manager I had the issue with and an assurance I wouldn’t have any problems in the future. (kroger-complaint.pdf)

Well, I received a letter back from the corporate office yesterday and I must say I am amazed at how pathetic a response to the issue I received. You can read the response letter here. The jist of the letter is “thanks for writing us to let us know how crappy our service was, and we’ll load a whole dollar on your Kroger card to say we’re sorry and let the store know they pissed you off.”  Here are my complaints with the response:

  1. They addressed me as “Ms.”, when my name obviously indicates I am not female.
  2. The lack of any acknowledgement that the store was wrong in their handling of this incident.
  3. The request that if I want to hear from the store manager I need to mail a form back to them with my phone number, a form which wasn’t even included with the response letter. Can retail managers not read and write anymore to the point they can send a letter in response?
  4. The gesture of loading $1.00 onto my card. Really? I have an unsatisfactory experience in your store with three of your employees wasting a good 20 minutes of my time arguing for an adjustment that should have been made without me even asking and $1.00 is going to make everything all better? If you aren’t going to make a meaningful gesture just don’t bother. Crediting me a whole dollar is just insulting!

So my point in this post other than pointing out Kroger’s horrible customer service is to show that complaining won’t always lead to a satisfactory resolution, but it can provide you the confirmation you need to know that you no longer want to do business with a company. I’m destroying my Kroger Plus card and plan never to return!

Is customer service getting worse, or am I just getting grumpier?

July 2nd, 2009

Two bad customer service experiences in the last two weeks having me wondering if the general level of customer service is getting worse, or if I am just getting more irritable as I get older?

Here’s the first one: I was at Kroger picking up a few items, including two packs of Kraft American singles. For each pack I had a 50 cent coupon, which based on their policy should have been doubled. Of course the coupons didn’t double, and when I point it out to the cashier she just nonchalantly says “it just does that sometimes”, making no attempt to fix the error. I then ask for a supervisor, who comes over and basically says the same thing, making no attempt to fix it. I finally ask for a manager, who I think will surely make this right, who gives me nothing but a line of BS. She first says they can’t double it because the manufacturer won’t let them, and then when I point out that there is no restriction stated on the coupon to prevent doubling she gives me a line that it must be coded into the barcode. When I specifically ask her to adjust the total for the coupons she refuses, saying she doesn’t have the authority to make any adjustments. I had them take off the cheese and give me my coupons back, and followed the incident up with a letter to their corportate office in Ohio. At this point, I haven’t received any acknowledgement or response.

The second incident was at Randalls earlier this week. In their sale that ended Tuesday, they had two really good meat sales: one for bone-in pork chops for $0.99/lb and the other for 80% lean ground beef, also at $0.99/lb. Surprisingly they were out of both, and when I asked at the meat counter the butcher said that I just needed to get a raincheck in the front. OK, fine. I finish my shopping and check out, and tell the cashier I need to get a raincheck for the meat sale items that are out of stock. She then tells me I need to go to customer service for a raincheck, which has a line of about 12 people and is showing no signs of moving. Noting it is ridiculous I should have to wait another 30 minutes to get a raincheck for something they should have had in stock in the first place and that all my cold items would be warm by the time I was done, I asked for a manager. The manager comes over and when I explain what I need and that my cold items will be hot by the time I get through the line at customer service, he tries to stick to the line that all rainchecks must go through customer service. After a few minutes of arguing and me threatening to void the sale of the other $50 of items I was getting, he finally points me to the head cashier who is standing at the next register with the raincheck book ready to go. I ultimately got what I wanted, but I found it incredible how much of a douchebag the manager was about the issue.

So is anyone else seeing the level of customer service decline as much as I am, or is it just bad luck on my part?

Dish Network retention: Saved $15/month for the next year!

June 8th, 2009

In this environment, it is smart to minimize expenses as much as possible, and one place ripe for cuts is the cable TV bill. While the argument could be made that you don’t need cable at all, many of us wish to keep the luxury of cable and would just like to knock a few bucks off the price. This is pretty easy to do; all you have to do is ask the right person the right way.

All you have to do is work your money-saving magic through the Retentions Department. They won’t send you there if you just ask for it by name, so you have to threaten to cancel to get there and get the best deals. I called Dish Network retentions today, and my call went something like this:

BillyOceansEleven: Hi, I would like to cancel my service.

DishNetwork: I’m sorry to hear that and I see you’ve been with us for two years. May I ask why you want to cancel?

BOE: Well, money is tight so I am shopping around my service and I can get a programming package similar to my current one over at DirecTV for $29.99 a month, which is considerable less than the $44.99 before tax I’m paying you guys now.

DN: Give me a second to review your account…Okay, I can offer you a $15.00 bill credit for each of the next 12 months, which will bring your price before tax to $29.99.

BOE: Well, that would put me at the same cost as DirecTV, so let’s do that.

DN: Okay, give me a few minutes to update your account.

DN: Okay, I have added the discount to your account and you should see the first credit on your next statement. Thank you for choosing Dish Network. Goodbye.

Total time spent including navigating the phone tree to get to retentions was 3 minutes 48 seconds and total savings is $180 over the course of a year. Not too shabby!

A few pointers:

  • Be absolute in your comments. Don’t say “I’m thinking about canceling.” Say “I would like to cancel.” This lets them know you mean business.
  • Comparison shop and be prepared to present them will the best deal out there. Give them a reason to adjust the bill. “I think my bill is too high” is less effective than “I can switch to DirecTV and get this service for $29.99″.
  • Give them some idea of what it would take to make you happy. If you simply want to lower your bill, focus on a competitor offer for the same service for less. If you really want more channels at the same price, present them with a competitor’s service offering around your current price.
  • Remember that you have the most leverage when you are no longer contract. If you are under contract you probably won’t get much since they know you’ll have to pay the early termination fee if you really do cancel.